ice water and ocicats

There's another community called child_free_life that has much less ranting. I like it better for that reason, but it's also quieter and thus more boring.

You'd have to go back a few days to find my post on childfree... back to the day I said I'd discovered it, or actually the day after that for the one that actually started some discussion. I'll dredge up the links for you at some point.